Media Matters Latest Crap Sammich
Posted by Jay in Blog on August 30, 2012 9:54 am / 5 comments

Media Matters is good. Good in that building steaming piles of poo is a real strength for them. If awards were given out for making crap sandwiches, they’d win the blue ribbon every time.
Jeremy Holden is one of the better crap chefs at Media Matters and today he goes after Ari Fleischer for fact checking the bogus fact checker. Tommy covered that in detail.
This has more to do with Holden’s sneaky games with words to try and make what Ryan said look false when in fact, what he said was entirely true:
CNN contributor Ari Fleisher distorted the history of a Wisconsin auto plant that closed in 2008, a dishonest attempt to defend Paul Ryan from scrutiny over false claims he has made.
Ryan has been sharply critical of President Obama’s rescue of the U.S. auto industry in 2009, falsely accusing Obama of going back on a promise to save a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin. Ryan returned to that claim during his convention speech Wednesday:
Pay particular attention to what Holden writes:
Independent fact-checkers have rated Ryan’s charge false, pointing out that the Janesville plant closed in 2008, before Obama took office. Fleischer, who appeared on CNN to dissect Ryan’s speech, rejected the analysis of those fact-checkers. Announcing his intention to “fact-check the fact-checkers,” Fleischer cited a September 2011 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel article and said.
Emphasis mine. It continues with what Fleischer said:
The Janesville plant stopped production of SUVs in 2008 and was idled in 2009 after it completed production of medium-duty trucks. Paul Ryan was right. The fact-checkers are wrong.
Then Holden just gets dumb:
But fact-checkers have already factored that evidence into their analysis. According to PolitiFact, which pointed out that the plant did in fact close before Obama took office, “Several dozen workers stayed on another four months to finish an order of small- to medium-duty trucks for Isuzu Motors.”
So Politifact admits that plant did not close in 2008 and Holden points to them and says, “See! Look!” as though this helps his argument. Laughably dumb.
But where Holden really goes off the rails is his next paragraph. Pay particular attention:
This evidence, already in the public record, does nothing to disprove the fact that the decision to close the Janesville plant was made before Obama took office.
See that? All of a sudden it’s not, “The plant closed in 2008!” It becomes, “The decision to close the plant was made in 2008!”
Watch for the the phrase “the decision to close the plant in 2008″ to start making its way into the Obama team’s reasoning for calling Ryan a liar over this.
They shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.
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5 Comments
So you are arguing that Ryan was only grossly misleading, but not technically a liar because a skeleton crew stayed on for a few months of 2009 to finish a final order and close down the plant? You really want to make this argument? This is the argument the GOP wants to make? What I don’t get is that there are so many legitimate criticisms to make about Obama’s presidency, but Ryan features this “misleading” accusation that draws attention to the fact that Romney opposed the auto bailout (that is very popular in two swing states, OH and MI). Strategically, I don’t get it.
David, that’s the point. When in doubt, GOPer’s reach for the “let’s confuse the hell out of people” card when they don’t have a leg to stand on. However you say it “the plant CLOSED in 2008″ or “the decision to CLOSE the plant happened in 2008″, the fact is it closed and a lot of people lost their jobs. Question is: who is to blame? They hope that by confusing the details, that you can discredit the source of the information. And frankly, the tactic works. Bravo GOP.
David, it’s the Democrats who seemingly think they can ride the “LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!” theme to re-election. The bottom line is this: The plant was not closed.
Your logic would have us believe that Wendy’s is not actually “open” at midnight because only 3 people are working there instead of 12 like there was at noon. Do you realize how foolish that sounds?
“the fact is it closed” – Then why are liberals and the Obama team in such a tizzy about it?
I love the false equivalency. It is more like a fast food joint being told “At the end of the day, you’re all fired. Now finish serving all of the people in the drive-thru, because we need to use up all the burgers you already grilled”
You aren’t going to throw away a four month supply of car parts, even if you’re closing the plant.
I never doubt the left’s propensity to yelp “false equivalence” whenever they have one of their idiotic accusations turned on its head.